Am I the only one here that got really bad experience with nextcloud and didn’t figured how to make it work correctly?

I’m talking about painfully slow login pages, ages to show files, even upgraded hardware with disk entirely capable of saturing full gig network connection and still…
Getting only about ~30ish MB/s when downloading from nextcloud.
Incredly slow document loading with collabora…

Even if my hardware is not new-gen, a app like immich works flawlessly and loads everything instantly.
Is it the fault of next cloud or am I doing something wrong?
Are alternatives like seafile or openCloud better?

Willing your help fellow selfhosters

  • cyberwolfie@lemmy.mlEnglish
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    2 days ago

    I’ve been running tge AIO container for several years now and it is running perfectly fine. I only enable whatever I use, so for instance no Collabora.

    But for Collabora, while it should be good for single-person use, if you require some kind of collaborative simultaneous work, you should probably set up the high-performance backend. I did this at work for a NC-instance hosted via Hetzner and it works well when we tried it, but we don’t really use those kinds of tools much in our daily work.

  • Matt The Horwood@lemmy.horwood.cloudEnglish
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    2 days ago

    Your issue could be a missing index, check the admin settings page and see if it has any advice.

    I also found that my files_cache table was missing an index from way back, I had to empty the table and create the index. But the speed boost was insane, it went from painfully slow to almost instant.

  • plm00@lemmy.mlEnglish
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    2 days ago

    Speeds weren’t too bad for me, but setting it up was a pain. Even when AIO came out, I spent hours trying to get it right. After several years and tearing it down and rebuilding now and again because something would get messed up, and realizing it was nearly impossible to get it to work with Tailscale instead of a reverse proxy, I decided it was time to throw in the towel. Nextcloud parades itself as a product anyone can use, but in practice it feels like it was meant for enterprise users.

  • Lem453@lemmy.caEnglish
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    2 days ago

    I ran nextcloud for years on good hardware and its always been the weakest self hosted app I have. I moved to seafile for a bit and then ultimately owncloud OCIS.

    OCIS is a modern app that is massively better since its written with modern languages / frameworks

    • uninvitedguest@piefed.caEnglish
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      2 days ago

      I’m one of the people who is happy with my Nextcloud setup (outside of never quite getting only office to work in browser after I hooked it all up to a reverse proxy behind HTTPS), but I always try to keep my eye on developments in the space for a potential better solution. I looked at OCIS a while back, but it didn’t have the quality of life features that I enjoy to make it worth me switching from a working Nextcloud deployment.

      Does OCIS have a desktop client that supports on-demand file synchronization (a la OneDrive) rather than just selective folder sync? Does it support storing files as is in a natural directory structure or is everything stored as a flat file blob? Is it able to handle external storage even if that external storage is physical storage on a container mount point?

      • ikidd@lemmy.worldEnglish
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        1 day ago

        Owncloud is an enshittified mess. There are very good reasons that Nextcloud hardforked and ran. Stay far away.

  • otacon239@lemmy.worldEnglish
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    2 days ago

    I constantly would get files stuck in the database that I couldn’t delete. All of the forum posts would talk about going into the database to fix it, but the whole point of NextCloud for me was to completely avoid database management.

    I’ve fallen back to using DUFS or copyparty for most things since I really just needed my file store to be browsable via web in some cases.

    I probably would still be using NextCloud if they didn’t obfuscate the file system.

    • ikidd@lemmy.worldEnglish
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      1 day ago

      They don’t obfuscate the filesystem, it’s right there in clear folder trees under each username in the chosen data folder with all the filenames you see in the UI, you can do whatever you want with it.

      I hear this bullshit constantly and I go back to check just to make sure I’m not fooling myself and there it is. Where do people get this from, do you not know how to navigate a filesystem?

  • tenchiken@anarchist.nexusEnglish
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    2 days ago

    Seeing most of the negative comments here noting bare metal etc.

    Moving to the AIO build solved literally every issue I had with the single exception being the colabora office stuff.

    For the image stuff, basic file, download etc… been great.

    The Android app gives me grief, but I suspect that’s my janky Samsung phone killing it’s permissions.

    Considering they only officially support the AIO, it’s worth trying that out before passing full judgement. It has flaws, for sure, but it’s immensely complex and the AIO nullifies many of the variables that they can’t otherwise account for easily.